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11 Q Now, Mr. Tidder, did you in 2007 have a

12 conversation with Francis Garnier?

13 A Yes.

14 Q Can you —

15 A A telephone —

16 Q — tell —

17 A Telephone conversation.

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30 Q And when Mr.Garnier called you, was he upset?

31 A I don’t have a great recollection of that

32 conversation, to be honest with you, but I believe

33 he wouldn’t be asking me to ask Mr. Hunter to not

34 come by anymore if — if he was not at some point